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Rich

And somehow Mathis escapes the Mofo tag:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=a-conversation-with-mark-mathis

I love the way he plays the "I didn't do that bit", "not my argument", "I'm not a scientist" and "outrage" cards, all at the same time.

Lee

Kevin,

YOu posted aobut the DAveScot aticle in several palces aroudn teh web. Yo now seem to realize that Dave Scot is (to be way more polite than DaveScot deserves in this) simply wrong. As of this minute, while I'm typing this, the "getexpelled' web site still says:
"Motive Entertainment is proud to present THE EXPELLED TOUR which launches on November 26th to promote the upcoming release of EXPELLED: No Intelligence Allowed. Tour locations are being added every day! You and your community are invited to attend FREE of charge! CLICK HERE to RSVP now at a location near you!"

My question is, are you or anyone associated with this movie going to do anything to disabuse DaveScot or the Uncommon Descent blog of the notion that PZ was not invited? Lie a post over there? You read his post, yo spread his message, you claim to realize now it was false. Do something abut it.

Cheezits

If Myers wasn't invited, then who was? Were they sent special invitations? What did they do different from Myers? For that matter, why were his guests allowed in?

factician

Pete,

Actually, I think it would be more like 3 minutes in a year long evolutionary biology class. Given the amount of coverage that evolution gets in your average high school biology class, giving ID equal time (based on the number of papers) wouldn't give the teacher even time to complete the words:

Intelligent de-...

Which would be okay, in my book.

Kevin Miller

Bigdumbguy:
On PZ's blog, I said, "I'm on the verge of issuing a retraction of my apology unless you can prove it's not true." I've done a bit of research (and read some of your comments) and determined that PZ could have gotten to the page through legitimate channels. So I won't be issuing my retraction.

Rev. BigDumbChimp

Mr. Miller are you planning on drive by trolling at PZ's or do you care to come back to the comments to have your question answered? In actuality, if you had read the post in which you commented about Davescot's post at UD you would have seen that there is a link to a post destroying Davescot's ridiculous post.

You be better off not using anything Davescot says as a defense for your actions.

ellazimm

From the Expelled website:

"Many scenes are centered around the Berlin Wall, and Ben Stein being Jewish actually visits many death camps and death showers. In fact, Nazi Germany is the thread that ties everything in the movie together. Evolution leads to atheism leads to eugenics leads to Holocaust and Nazi Germany."

Norman Doering

Chad wrote:
"...a sign from god that what you're doing is wrong?"

How could it be wrong to sell hatred of atheists and evolutionists by associating the terms with images of concentration camps, gas chambers, Hitler, Stalin, and anything else threatening?

Chad

Has it ever occurred to you that all this bad PR and bungling of the issues is more or less a sign from god that what you're doing is wrong?

dieb

Shouldn't Mathis post something on the expelledthemovie.com site? The hole handling of this affair is pathetic...

Pete Cockerell

Oh, I forgot. In the New Scientist article Mathis declares that there have been ten (count them!) published, peer reviewed papers on ID. I hereby declare my support for the "equal time in the classroom" demands of IDers, providing the time is divided in proportion to the amount of published literature on evolution vs. ID. I'd estimate this to be a 1000:1 ratio, which would give ID a well-deserved three minutes in a one-year HS biology class.

Pete Cockerell

I don't understand why Mathis persists with this "he wasn't invited" tack when it seems that all you had to so was sign up to see the film on a website. Mathis really does come across as a small-minded man in all senses of the word:

http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/small-minded

So Michael Shermer is reviewing an unfinished film? Or he's going to have to site through the whole mess a second time?

Eric

Yeah, like Shermer's review is going to be all gumdrops and lollipops.

Avekid

Such professionalism!

/sarcasm

Congratulations, Mathis, on coming out as the petulant, spiteful, and vile little man we already knew you to be.

Nullifidian

Oh, but he already has:

"You should know that I invited Michael shermer to a screening at NRB in Nashville. He came and is writing a review for scientific American. I banned pz because I want him to pay to see it. Nothing more."

In short, he banned PZ out of spite.

mike

So what we're seeing here is that Mathis simply isn't going to tell anyone why he kicked out Meyers.

Rich

Funny how he doesn't actually cite Myer's "untruthful blogging". But he's said that in print now, making it legally actionable.

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